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Because I'm trying to see how much hate-mail I can get in one day.

No, actually, this is something that I've been thinking of, on and off, for the last couple of years.


A while back, one of the characters in a webcomic I used to read suffered a crisis of faith. Her religion, the teachings of her church, were telling her things that she found very hard to accept as right or fair. In the discussion on the message board, some people asked why she didn't just quit - renounce her god that said these things she didn't agree with, and find another that worked better for her.

What I thought of saying at the time, and finally am now, is this: It doesn't work that way. Belief, real belief, isn't something you can choose. (That's where Pascal's Wager has always failed my bullshit test. Faith is not a matter of game theory.)

If one believes in the existence of (a) god, then what one thinks of Him, Her or It does not influence that existence. I cannot make God go away because I don't like what He does, any more than I can wish away hurricanes, malaria, or bullies. (I note that I only have direct experience of the last; the other two, I must take on faith.)

Pretty much the only wiggle room a believer has is that the will of the divinity is interpreted by mortals, who can be fallible. But unless you happen to be a prophet or a hero, there's no arguing with God. God just is. Take it or... well, I guess you can't really leave it, can you?

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Date: 2007-01-25 10:47 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] kireishojo.livejournal.com
yeah... i know that conundrum. it can be hard to explain why i am still a catholic what with all the issues the church has gone through. one thing is that i still have faith in god, i may no longer have faith in the all too failable hirearchy (human hirearchy) of my church but my faith is still intact.

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Date: 2007-01-26 12:08 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] biomekanic.livejournal.com
Speaking from personal experience, item #1 cannot be wished away either.

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Date: 2007-01-26 01:13 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] z-gryphon.livejournal.com
Faith is not a matter of game theory.

It is if you're a game theorist.

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Date: 2007-01-26 02:27 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] cmdr-zoom.livejournal.com
Or a mathematician who thinks he's entirely too clever.

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Date: 2007-01-26 02:43 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] z-gryphon.livejournal.com
As I said...

(Consider: famous probability/game theorists include Blaise Pascal, John von Neumann, and John Forbes Nash.)

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