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It's strange to consider that two of the most long-lived (in various incarnations and re-makes) and famous animated series are rather obvious knock-offs of classic live-action TV shows. I'm referring, of course, to The Honeymooners and... Dobie Gillis. (Okay, so one's a bit better remembered, half a century later, than the other.)

What makes this a little less surprising is that "copy what works" was pretty much Hanna and Barbera's stock in trade (along with cheap, limited animation *rimshot*). Not only do you have the official adaptions - of everything from I Dream of Jeannie and The Addams Family to Godzilla - and the endless further mutations of the basic Scooby-Doo formula, one of which replaced the dog with Curly Howard in a shark suit; there's also the expies, like Top Cat (Phil Silvers' Sgt. Bilko) and, for god's sake, Yogi Bear (who, despite being named for a baseball player, is really more a case of H-B going back to the well of Art Carney for another drink).

You can't really call these parody, IMO, as they don't really make fun of the source - they just copy and transplant it, more or less entire, to a new milieu. The modern equivalent would be the AU fanfic. And in many cases, the mannerisms and such become more associated with the animated character than the actor/comedian who originated them. (How many people know who first said most of Bugs Bunny's funniest lines?) The content lives on, without its original context.

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Date: 2011-08-05 01:05 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] yahtzee63.livejournal.com
Dobie! Wants a gal that's dreamy ...

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Date: 2011-08-05 01:51 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] cmdr-zoom.livejournal.com
Some do remember, obviously. :)

Now, what's the most crackful AU you can come up with for those archetypes? (Feel free to add or dispense with the animal mascot.) I tried the new Enterprise crew, but it doesn't quite fit...

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Date: 2011-08-05 07:20 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] gwyd.livejournal.com
In my house, part of the fun of Bugs Bunny was figuring out all the pop culture references, especially with the WWII Era ones, but my family was like that. We also watched laugh-In reruns together and I'd ask about the political/cultural references that were too obscure for someone born in '69 during the commercial breaks.

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Date: 2011-08-05 07:42 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] z-gryphon.livejournal.com
We've got the missiles, peace to determine
... and one of the fingers on the button will be German

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Date: 2011-08-06 12:25 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] gwyd.livejournal.com
I grew up singing along with my parents' Tom Lehrer Lps.

"Once the rockets are up, who cares where they come down?
That's not my department," says Wernher Von Braun."

I know, different song, but thematically linked. ;)

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Date: 2011-08-05 07:41 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] z-gryphon.livejournal.com
Oddly, it just occurred to me the other day how clearly the structure of the Harry Potter universe (They Live Among Us Incognito, and Generally Regard Us With Contempt) is prefigured by Bewitched.
Edited Date: 2011-08-05 07:41 pm (UTC)

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Date: 2011-08-05 08:11 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] cmdr-zoom.livejournal.com
Oh yes, ever so much.
That was a favorite show of mine as a kid, and one of my inspirations when making a (half) "Muggleborn" character for a HP game a few years back.

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